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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://community.kmtr.com/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Computers/Internet</title><link>http://community.kmtr.com/forums/1453/ShowForum.aspx</link><description>Discuss computers and your favorite websites.</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.0 (Build: 60217.2664)</generator><item><title>Internet Providers Censoring Conservative News E-Mail</title><link>http://community.kmtr.com/forums/thread/1568022.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:23:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">7599f546-9829-4584-83a0-fe3551f0410d:1568022</guid><dc:creator>Cassandra</dc:creator><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><comments>http://community.kmtr.com/forums/thread/1568022.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://community.kmtr.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1453&amp;PostID=1568022</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;Have you experienced any of this?&amp;nbsp; I have, but was able to get it corrected. What experiences have you had.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; NOTE: Brackets and underlines are mine for emphasis...&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;DIV align=center&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size=6&gt;INTERNET PROVIDERS CENSORING CONSERVATIVE NEWS E-MAIL&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face=Georgia size=3&gt;Posted 1:00 AM Eastern&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face=Georgia size=3&gt;by Jim Kouri&lt;BR&gt;April 26, 2007&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT color=#cc0033&gt;©&lt;/FONT&gt; 2007 NewsWithViews.com&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;A href="http://www.newswithviews.com/"&gt;http://www.newswithviews.com/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;Something ominous and sinister has been happening on the Internet lately: two major internet service providers -- without any prior explanation or notice -- have been discriminating against conservative e-zines and web journals.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; [read on].&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;According to several subscribers to NewsWithViews.Com's newsletter, companies such as &lt;U&gt;Earthlink&lt;/U&gt; and &lt;U&gt;SBC Global&lt;/U&gt; are intentionally blocking delivery of NWV's e-mail to subscribers. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;"When I wasn't receiving my NewsWithViews notices I called their office in &lt;U&gt;Oregon&lt;/U&gt; to ask why. I was concerned they had closed down or worse. The gentleman I spoke with told me that &lt;U&gt;all the Earthlink folks were being denied delivery&lt;/U&gt; of the daily posts from NWV," complains Jackie Juntti, a NewswithViews.com e-mail subscriber. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;"I have to admit that shocked me as Earthlink has long had the reputation of sending EVERYTHING thru their servers -- no holds barred. I tried and tried to make an e-mail complaint about their blocking NWV from getting to me. I explained to them I SUBSCRIBED to that list and I WANT IT DELIVERED!! I tried several different Earthlink e-mail addresses and as of this moment I have yet to receive any response from Earthlink about my emailed complaints on this topic," said Ms. Juntti. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;As reported by NewsBusters, the most recent widespread occurrence of this unexplained phenomenon was when Frank Salvato, proprietor of The New Media Journal, realized that his content that day hadn't been disseminated at Google News as it had been on a daily basis since he reached an agreement with the search engine in September 2005. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;After sending the Google Help Desk a query concerning the matter, Salvato was informed that there had been complaints of "hate speech" at his website, and as a result, The New Media Journal would no longer be part of Google News. As evidence of his offense, the Google Team supplied Salvato with links to three recent op-eds published by his contributing writers, all coincidentally about radical Islam and its relation to terrorism. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;According to a &lt;A href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55374"&gt;recent WND news article&lt;/A&gt; American Airlines is blocking WorldNetDaily as a "hate site." "WoldNetDaily is anything but, all they do is report the truth, since when is truth hate?"&lt;/FONT&gt; 
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;As a sidebar, the NewsBusters article that first broke this story on May 19 cannot be found by doing a Google News search even though other recent articles by NewsBusters can. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;To be sure, there have been complaints in the past from conservative bloggers that internet service providers seem to have dubious requirements to be a part of its News Crawl. In February 2005, Michelle Malkin spoke of the difficulties she was having becoming part of Google News. At roughly the same time, Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs also complained about not being being excluded by internet services. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;However, the biggest example of censorship appears to be the blocking of e-mail from conservative web sites such as NewswithViews.com. NWV e-mail is treated as spam in spite of the fact that readers voluntarily sign up for the newsletter. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;NewswithViews.com subscriber Mary Gasser reported to this writer that she's already found five conservative newsletters including NWV being blocked by her server SBC Global, which is owned by AT&amp;amp;T. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;"It's crazy how these people just decide to &lt;U&gt;block e-mail and treat it as &lt;/U&gt;spam, but they &lt;U&gt;treat spam as legitimate e-mail&lt;/U&gt;," says Ms. Gasser. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;Few knowledgeable people question the existence of bias in the media, although there is debate about the slant. However, it is conceivable that few folks have considered the possibility of Internet news aggregators possessing such partiality, and, maybe more important, the ramifications. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;Beyond this, Google appears intimately tied to former vice president and potential 2008 Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore. It is no secret that Gore is a senior advisor to Google, a position that garnered him a sizable number of shares according to Fox News political analyst Susan Estrich. On May 19's The Big Story, Estrich discussed with host John Gibson Gore's connection with Google, and how the wealth generated from the shares he owns in the Internet behemoth could give him enough money to finance his own presidential campaign. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;NWV contacted Earthlink and was directed to their company's policy on spam blocking: &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;Known spam blocking detects messages from known spammers on EarthLink servers and intercepts them before they reach your inbox. These messages are automatically sent to your "Known spam" folder, where you can view the messages before deleting them. This level of protection works regardless of your email program. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;Suspect email blocking allows you to only receive email from the people in your address book. All other email will be sent to the "Suspect Email" folder until you have approved the sender. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;Note: Legitimate emails coming from EarthLink will NOT be filtered and will ALWAYS be delivered directly to your inbox. You should NEVER accept a blocked email that ended up in one of your spam folders just because it APPEARS to be from EarthLink. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;Political strategist Mike Baker of New Jersey is suspicious of Earthlink and SBC Global. &lt;U&gt;He wonders how customers continue to receive unsolicited information on penis enhancement, get-rich-quick schemes, and pharmaceutical products but their requested political e-mail is blocked by their Internet provider&lt;/U&gt;. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;"&lt;U&gt;I've personally had desired e-mail blocked by IP servers, but I get regular e-mail on how to enlarge my sex organ or how to buy controlled substances on the internet," says Baker&lt;/U&gt;. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;When this reporter contacted SBC Global -- which recently merged with Yahoo! -- I was directed to their spam protection policy: &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;The SBC Global email account includes SpamGuard, a filtering system designed to reduce spam in your inbox by directing most bulk messages to a bulk mail folder. This filtering system is automatically activated when you upgrade to SBC Yahoo! DSL. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;When our automatic filter determines that a message was sent in bulk, SpamGuard generates a bulk mail folder and sends the bulk message to this folder instead of your inbox. This technique aims to deliver only emails that you've requested to your Inbox. However, we may occasionally send these messages to your bulk mail folder. If this occurs, let us know by clicking the This is not Spam link on the message itself. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;Messages remain in your bulk mail folder for a minimum of 30 days unless you delete them yourself. After 30 days, the messages are removed automatically. You may wish to empty your bulk mail folder yourself on a periodic basis by deleting all unsolicited messages that have been placed there. This will free up your online email storage space.&lt;/FONT&gt; 
&lt;P align=center&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;Please be aware that the bulk mail folder doesn't generate Spam, and does not create additional mail. The system only directs incoming bulk messages addressed to you to a different folder. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;Conservative activist Kathy Lehman is also complaining about her IP server, Earthlink. She states that when she called customer service she spoke for over a half-hour with a representative overseas, but finally hung up when she discovered she wasn't making any headway.&lt;/FONT&gt; 
&lt;P align=center&gt;&lt;A href="mailto:newsforyou-list-subscribe@newswithviews.com"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;"I've since switched to another server in order to get my conservative publications and newsletters such as NewswithViews.com," said Ms. Lehman. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P align=left&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"&gt;"Dealing with their customer service people was like dealing with crazy people."&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;FONT face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color=#cc0000&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Clearwire &amp;amp; Quest DSL</title><link>http://community.kmtr.com/forums/thread/2065133.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:36:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">7599f546-9829-4584-83a0-fe3551f0410d:2065133</guid><dc:creator>badgerrr</dc:creator><slash:comments>6</slash:comments><comments>http://community.kmtr.com/forums/thread/2065133.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://community.kmtr.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1453&amp;PostID=2065133</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;I'm looking at maybe getting some better ISP than dial-up.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Anyone have opinions on Clearwire or Quest DSL?&amp;nbsp; Am especially interested in experiances from the Thurston area, but any info would be appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Local Wi-Fi Access</title><link>http://community.kmtr.com/forums/thread/1825688.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:08:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">7599f546-9829-4584-83a0-fe3551f0410d:1825688</guid><dc:creator>badgerrr</dc:creator><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><comments>http://community.kmtr.com/forums/thread/1825688.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://community.kmtr.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1453&amp;PostID=1825688</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;Hey Folks, great news, the wife bought me a laptop for my Birthday! &lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-36.gif" alt="Computer" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thing is, the critter has got this Vista loaded on it.&amp;nbsp; My Netscape dial-up can't gronk Vista yet.&amp;nbsp; So if I want online with this bad boy, it's off to the local wi-fi hotspot for me.&amp;nbsp;( We can't bloody well afford hi-speed for the house)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But now the big thing is, just where are the best hotspots in the Eugene/Springfield area?&amp;nbsp; Fourtunately&amp;nbsp;one can search online and pull up&amp;nbsp;a few, but all&amp;nbsp;the lists are hit &amp;amp; miss.&amp;nbsp; So maybe we should start listing the good ones on here.&amp;nbsp; I was just at the &lt;STRONG&gt;Spfld Library&lt;/STRONG&gt; this morning and everything went off without a hitch.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Right now I'm writting from&lt;STRONG&gt; Bagel Sphere&lt;/STRONG&gt; on Main Street (next to the Bi-Mart).&amp;nbsp; I only know about this one cause they just put&amp;nbsp;up a sign.&amp;nbsp; Was listed NOWHERE online that I seen.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Understand the &lt;STRONG&gt;McDonalds&lt;/STRONG&gt; are a good bet.&amp;nbsp; You have to watch a little 15 second online commercial to get an access code; but there's lots of Micky D's that have Wi-Fi . (but not all.....like the one up here on East Main Street&amp;nbsp; The one on Mohawk has it though.)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Understand the &lt;STRONG&gt;Woodsman&lt;/STRONG&gt; and the &lt;STRONG&gt;Village Inn&lt;/STRONG&gt; have it too - but can't speak from personal experiance yet.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ok..this is a good start.&amp;nbsp; Let's start listing them babies and throwing an editorial in on the experiance would just be icing on the cake. &lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-49.gif" alt="Cake" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Internet Tax/ Ban expires this year</title><link>http://community.kmtr.com/forums/thread/1661659.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 00:37:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">7599f546-9829-4584-83a0-fe3551f0410d:1661659</guid><dc:creator>Cassandra</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://community.kmtr.com/forums/thread/1661659.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://community.kmtr.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=1453&amp;PostID=1661659</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;H1&gt;Politicians weigh renewal of Net access tax ban&lt;/H1&gt;
&lt;DIV id=storyDekDiv&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;State governments&lt;/U&gt; &lt;U&gt;say they want to be able to levy new taxes on access&lt;/U&gt; and oppose an unfettered extension of the federal ban that expires this fall.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV id=byline&gt;By &lt;A href="mailto:anne.broache@cnet.com?subject=FEEDBACK:PoliticiansweighrenewalofNetaccesstaxban"&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0048c0&gt;Anne Broache&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt; &lt;BR&gt;Staff Writer, CNET News.com&lt;BR&gt;&lt;br /&gt; --&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV id=published&gt;Published: May 22, 2007, 3:26 PM PDT&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;WASHINGTON--With only months left on a moratorium restricting state governments from taxing Internet access, the U.S. House of Representatives on Tuesday began a debate over whether the ban should be made permanent or allowed to lapse. &lt;/B&gt;
&lt;P&gt;At issue is the scheduled expiration on November 1 of a law, initially enacted in 1998, that says local governments generally cannot tax Internet access, including DSL (digital subscriber line), cable modem and BlackBerry-type wireless transmission services. The law also prohibits governments from taxing items sold online in a different manner than those sold at brick-and-mortar stores, but it does not deal with &lt;A title="Days numbered for tax-free Net sales -- Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007" href="http://news.com.com/Days+numbered+for+tax-free+Net+sales/2100-1028_3-6176638.html"&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0048c0&gt;sales taxes on online shopping&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That's the way it should remain, some politicians said at &lt;A href="http://judiciary.house.gov/oversight.aspx?ID=325"&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0048c0&gt;a brief hearing here&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt; convened by a House of Representatives panel on commercial and administrative law. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;B&gt;Related podcast&lt;/B&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;A title="Podcast: *** Armey takes on the politics of Net taxation -- Monday, May 21, 2007" href="http://news.com.com/Podcast+***+Armey+takes+on+the+politics+of+Net+taxation/2324-12835_3-6185539.html"&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0048c0&gt;Tech Politics Rundown&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt; &lt;IMG height=10 src="http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/ne/en/2002/03/java/redarrow.gif" width=8 border=0&gt; 
&lt;DIV&gt;Former House Majority Leader *** Armey talks to News.com&lt;BR&gt;about Internet taxation. &lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"If we could liken the Internet to a mall, a place where you can go in and purchase goods and services, and also liken it to a library, a place where you can go and pull a book, pull a resource, and obtain some information, why would we tax a person upon entering a mall or why would we tax a person upon entering the library?" asked Rep. Hank Johnson, a Democrat from Georgia. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Industries that provide Internet access services have long backed making the ban permanent, and they already enjoy support from some members of Congress. In the House, Rep. Anna Eshoo, a California Democrat, has &lt;A href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.00743:"&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0048c0&gt;introduced such a measure&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;, and senators have &lt;A title="Senators aim to ease up on Net, phone taxes -- Thursday, Jan 4, 2007" href="http://news.com.com/Senators+aim+to+ease+up+on+Net%2C+phone+taxes/2100-1028_3-6147393.html"&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0048c0&gt;made similar moves&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But previous attempts at renewing the ban for more than two to four years have failed, in part because of &lt;STRONG&gt;resistance from state and local government lobby groups. State government representatives caution against making the moratorium permanent, saying it would deprive states indefinitely of vital revenue sources and that its original purpose--boosting the nascent Internet to commercial viability--has essentially been accomplished. &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;A 'slippery slope'&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR&gt;"If a moratorium is made permanent, there is a slippery slope where other industries will seek their own preemptions of state laws," said David Quam, director of federal relations for the National Governors Association. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The NGA supports the idea of extending the ban in a limited sense and for a defined time period, he added. He said reports by government auditors and the University of Tennessee have shown no statistical correlation between levels of broadband penetration and the existence of Internet access taxes. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Rep. Jim Jordan, an Ohio Republican and one of 66 House members who co-sponsored the permanent ban proposal, suggested he wasn't swayed by that argument. "Taxes always impact everything else in our economy," he said. "I would assume they've had a major impact in this area as well." &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As a rule, economists dislike taxes that could discourage investment, but taxes that could hinder build-out of the Internet are especially problematic, argued Scott Mackey, an economist and partner at the law firm Kimbell Sherman Ellis. He spoke on behalf of a coalition of Internet service providers, "backbone" providers and application and content companies that support a permanent extension of the tax ban. &lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;DIV class=promo1-hd&gt;"A permanent moratorium will send a strong, pro-investment signal to those entrepreneurs that are looking to improve communications and commerce over the Internet," he told the politicians. &lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A U.S. Senate committee is scheduled to weigh the issue at its own hearing scheduled for Wednesday. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A separate issue on one politician's mind was what to do about the collection of sales taxes on the Internet. State governments have long griped that they are losing revenue to booming e-commerce businesses that aren't required to collect taxes from customers in states where the businesses don't have a physical presence. Rep. Bill Delahunt, a Democrat from Massachusetts, said he was planning to try again at enacting a bill designed to address those concerns. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As for the Net tax ban, he said, "my own position is we ought to have a temporary moratorium until we finally resolve the issue of how the states are going to support public services with an eroding tax base predicated on the growth of e-commerce." &lt;/P&gt;

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