Police had to use a taser on a Pit Bull in Albany, after it was attacking a woman and her dog.  It brings up the question to how dangerous this type of dog is.  Do you think this type of dog should be outlawed from our communities?  Let us know what you think.

"Should Pit Bulls be Outlawed?"  Absolutely not.  We shouldn't have the government running around deeming what kind of DOGS we are ALLOWED to have.

That having been said;....we need to get a whole new attitude about what we do with people who KEEP dogs that attack people.  We don't come down on irresponsible owners who seek out and train mean/dangerous animals.  We need to punish these owners in ways that will make everyone sit up and say HOWDY!  We need to make examples of these owners so that everyone understands just how serious this sort of thing is.

The blasted government is absolutely terrified by the idea of you or I having a full auto machine gun, a rocket launcher or hand grenades.  But these things are perfectly safe unless we CHOOSE to harm others with them, as an act of volition.  We get caught with this illegal contraband and it's big time fines and jail terms.  But a Rocket launcher never loads itself and mows down 3 or 4 people on it's own accord.  But mean dogs can.....and do.  The laws should take dog attacks VERY seriously ( and frankly, lighten up on the Civilian Milita).

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Very well said. 

 

badgerrr

I must agree with most of what you said... In fact with all of it. I think some people will write off what you feel because of their outlook on the subject of  "The Milita". Today many of our more liberal citizens believe they are, and always will be, safe from an out of control government. So anyone talking of a citizens army has to be a zelot or extreamest. This is also a liberal state that feels the government is the endall answer to or problems. They like the idea that someone else will always be there to pick up after them and solve their problems for them.

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I THINK THE WHOLE THING IS RIDICULIOUS. I OWN TWO MYSELF AND THEY ARE THE BIGGEST WUSSES YOU HAVE EVER MET MY POODLE TERRIER IS MORE VICIOUS THEN THESE TWO COULD EVER THINK ABOUT BEING. IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW THEY ARE RAISED. JUST LIKE YOUR KIDS IF YOU RAISE THEM AS RAICIST'S THEN THATS HOW THERE GOING TO BE. IF YOU TEACH A DOG TO BE MEAN THEN THERE GOING TO BE MEAN. SO MAYBE WE SHOULD PUNISH THE OWNERS RATHER THAN THE ANIMAL BREED. OOOO THERE PIT BULLS WATCH OUT MY GOD GIVE IT UP WE HAVE TO FIND SOMETHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT DON'T WE.

I also own 2 "Pit Bulls" and the only thing they want to do is lick you to death. To be honest I cannot guarantee they will get along with other dogs. But being a responsible owner with an well fenced yard and only allowing my pets out on a leash this should not be an issue. If you raise a dog to attack it will, these people need to start looking at the owners of these abused animals and not the breed! I have had to be very selective in purchasing my home owners insurance. I was turned down by a few large company's  because of the breed of my dog. If that is not discrimination I don't know what is.

To outlaw a Pit Bull? RIDICULIOUS!

I couldn't imagine outlawing pit bulls, although I've dealt with some harsh moments thanks to prejudice toward the breed and laws governing how the animals are cared for once they have to be given up.

Several years ago a half-grown pit bull found his way into my backyard in Las Vegas. I was stunned, but my heart melted because here was this puppy and he was limping, underfed and gazing back into my eyes. So I took him to the vet to get looked over. We're not rich, and the bill was a lot but I paid it and took him home. This little guy (okay, he grew quickly) was a doll. His tail had been cropped, but he still had his ears and they'd flop and flop and flop. He was a beautiful brindle and while he looked spooky to folks, the moment he started running and those ears flopped around, folks relaxed. He became my boy and I was his person. The only thing that separated us was our having to move to an apartment that wouldn't allow dogs. It was agonizing to find out that if I took him to ANY shelter, non-killing or not, he'd be immediately put down. It didn't matter that he'd grown up as a family member, that he had grown up around two toddlers, that the only thing he'd ever chew on was my husband's yard irrigation system.

It's a two-way street though. There are horribly irresponsible owners who see their animals as nothing more than gaming pawns and trophies at the very least. They buy these animals and don't train them and expect miracles of them, or train them but don't follow up, or do indeed raise them to fight... and that's wrong. At the risk of stereotyping some owners, I've seen a huge macho thing going on that really bugs the heck out of me.

Anyway. Former owner of a pit bull. I actually hated and feared the breed before our puppy came along. I would like to happily note that he found a home via a friend in Houston, Texas. Hurray! He is now a registered and very loved dog.

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So the feeling I'm getting from the responses is that no pit bulls shouldn't be outlawed, because it comes down to responsible owners.

Do you think there should be licensing requirements when owning this breed.  Force owners to go to specialized training?  Of course this would cost even more money, but might keep the irresponsible owners in check.

 

How would you possibly enforce such a thing? Once again the responsible owners are the ones that would register there animals and be required to attend these classes when the one's that should never owen this animal will never follow up with even the registration let alone pay for a licence.

2 seems to be a common number here. I also own 2 pit bulls. Again, both are just the most friendly animal I've ever seen.

 

My question is where in the hell do these polititions come up with ideas that we the people WANT "dog control" or "gun control"??????? It is just plain ridiculious!

 

Badgger: Very well said. I am glad to know there are others in the comunity who share my views.

You're summation seems accurate. I am surprised that no advocates of banning have showed up here, but pleased also.  There are already licensing requirements for this breed, the same ones as for all breeds. If LCARA isn't keeping records by breed they should be, but I'm not sure this breed is getting a fair shake.  When I was much younger the vicious breed of choice was the Doberman Pinscher, and I'm sure the same discussions arose then. Dobie's aren't inherently vicious either, and nobody is suggesting their bannishment (annihilation actually) now.  Same goes for German Shepherds which preceeded the Dobie as the attack dog of choice. Requiring the owners of vicious dogs of ANY breed to pay FULL restitution for any damages is the best remedy, together with their surrendering the right to own a dog for a set period of time (5 years perhaps) with further penalties for violation. The real problem, as usual, is people.

I have read through some of these posts and I have a boxer/pit bull... half and half on each. He has a pit bull size and a boxer head and colors, you see the pit bull structure in the face when he yawns. He is the most loving dog, though he is overly hyperactive due to the Boxer. I love him and so do kids... adults HATE HIM.

AS THE BREED IS VERY AGGRESSIVE TO ITS NON OWNERS. THEY SHOULD BE LICENSED AND A INSURANCE BOND SHOULD BE REQUIRED. THIS WONT COMPLETELY SOLVE THE PROBLEM BUT WILL HELP TO KEEP NON EDUCATED OWNERS HOPEFULLY OUT OF THE PICTURE. THE INSURANCE WOULD HELP TO PAY FOR ANY DAMAGE THEY DO.

I just read about the two who were out running in Marcola and nearly killed an older lab who was sleeping in her yard when they attacked. What a shame. That incident was resolved when a friend/neighbor shot and killed the Pit Bulls while they were still on the victim's property, but the old lab will never be the same, and her owner is stuck with thousands in vet bills he'll never be able to recover.

I do remember the prejudice towards dobermans and german shepherds. The difference, I think, is that those breeds never killed with the frequency of Pit Bulls and Rottweilers.

All that aside, I don't see any solution that involves the government. As I have learned over the last few years, every part of the Oregon government's enforcement capability has been eviscerated over the last thirty years, so there is nobody left to call even if there were a new law/regulation to enforce. The state isn't quite as bad off as our county, but I recently read that the State Police is still well short of half the number of sworn officers it had in the 1970s, and even farther short of half the officers-per-population average in this country. The article said Oregon's population is over three times what it was the last time the police staffing was this low. (1930s?) I see no purpose in adding to the laws we don't/can't enforce.

i hate pittbulls they bite me in the leg