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Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
Last post 04-19-2009, 9:29 PM by imtameralea. 19 replies.
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04-07-2009, 8:19 PM |
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Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
Did anybody happen to catch the news last night about the guy who killed himself in the Valley River Center Theatre ? I did not see the news and was wondering if it was even reported on, I did not see it on the KMTR site. It is buried on page 3 of the local section here:
http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/updates/11296248-46/story.csp
Not only is the Mall being cased by thieves, but is now favored by those who want to "off" themselves while watching their favorite Hollywood fantasy. KMTR and the Guard obviously did not want to scare any of their remaining "consumers" away so they decided to bury the story. This a prime example over $$$ suppressing the news as much of the KMTR's and Register Guard's ad revenue, no doubt, comes from mall merchants.
It is a sad state of affairs, but hey, don't worry dear Consumer, come out and spend you hard earned dollars on useless junk made in Communist China, and if you get really lucky you just might get to witness a theft, violent crime or who knows what !!!
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04-07-2009, 8:23 PM |
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clueless
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
I forgot to add: The story in the Guard is the most read, apparently someone thinks it's important.
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04-07-2009, 10:01 PM |
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
It is very sad indeed that someone can be that ignorant and cruel as your name clueless indicates. The young man that decided that this life was to intolerable to bear can hardly be called a maniac. During these times more and more people are finding only hopelessness and despair with no sight of hope. We as a people need to be ever vigilante and try to help or get help for anyone who has these thoughts. Many a great talent and brillant mind has made a bad decision that ended there life and affected many people around them. As for the thieves and hoodlums, when everyone decides its our problem and not the person who gets robbed, then and only will the crap stop.
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04-08-2009, 2:41 AM |
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
Wow, you're an insensitive ass.This man had a family that he left behind and he was also a human being..unlike you.
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04-08-2009, 8:43 AM |
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
It's important because the majority of the community cares about it's members. The only part of your post I disagreed with was calling this kid a maniac. There was something so wrong in this person's life that they felt the only way out was to end it. This person didn't hurt anyone else and while I don't condone offing yourself in a public facility, perhaps the last thoughts was this person didn't want to die alone.
This persons parents will spend the rest of their lives battling unanswered question. I can't imagine the pain they will deal with for the rest of their lives.
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04-08-2009, 9:31 AM |
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clueless
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
Here is the definition for maniac:
2 : a person characterized by an inordinate or ungovernable enthusiasm for something
He fits the profile, and was not a boy, he was 24 years old. I do not know his parents or his circumstances, but I am sure his home life was "troubled". The harsh reality is suicide is the ultimate act of selfishiness....Who knows how many people this person could have helped had he been willing to step out of his own problems and help someone else with theirs.
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04-08-2009, 1:17 PM |
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
Clueless
You commented that "KMTR... obviously did not want to scare any of their remaining "consumers" away so they decided to bury the story. This a prime example over $$$ suppressing the news as much of the KMTR's ... ad revenue, no doubt, comes from mall merchants."
I found it interresting that the story is still on KMTR's website and, oh, BTW, it was the top story on the 5:00 news on Monday. If KMTR was trying to bury the story, it wouldn't be STILL on the site and it would not have been the TOP story, wouldn't you think?
Get your facts straight before you pop off.
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04-08-2009, 2:28 PM |
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clueless
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
Perhaps you ought to get your facts straight...I asked if anyone saw the news, and I when I posted this I did not see it on KMTR's main page - and even now it is very generic (there are no names), there are also comments to this effect in the other comments section (on the main story page).
And as far as "popping off" this is the "sound off" message board, is it not ??? So I can "pop off" any time I want and you can't do a thing about it...
Is this Matt Templeman ????
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04-08-2009, 4:16 PM |
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Buzz Blogger
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
No, that is not Matt Templeman.
We had the story up on the website at 10:00AM on Monday April 6th, which is about 32 hours before you posted on the forums. We kept, and still have the story on our front page. The reason you may have thought that the Register Guard and KMTR had buried the story is that you were looking for it so long after it was reported.
We haven't reported more information on the story because of the privacy of the family. We normally do not report on suicides, and the only reason this one was reported on was because of the public nature of the event.
We take our news integrity very seriously, and I'm sure the Register Guard does as well. Your theory on ad money suppressing the news is 100% inaccurate.
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04-08-2009, 6:37 PM |
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
Obviously clueless is a child. Your definition does not fit with the word suicide and the primary def of maniac is madman. As for popping off, your right to show just how juvenile you are is your right and i can call anyone my minor a young man or woman.
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04-08-2009, 8:09 PM |
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imtameralea
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
It saddens me deeply that you can think that you need to sound off about something this sensitive. Sometimes it is better to keep your opinion to yourself. You seem very judgemental, which we are not here to judge. Only God can judge. I agree with many of the other posts. There had to be something awful in this young mans life for him to feel that the only out was killing himself. I have always felt that KMTR is a news media that is very sensitive. They get their facts straight before reporting.
Is your life so boring that you think you need to judge other people and sound off about something that is so sensitive. I will pray that you can find other avenues to vent your obvious angered, troubled soul.
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04-09-2009, 9:30 AM |
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
imtameralea:
It saddens me deeply that you can think that you need to sound off about something this sensitive. Sometimes it is better to keep your opinion to yourself. You seem very judgemental, which we are not here to judge. Only God can judge. I agree with many of the other posts. There had to be something awful in this young mans life for him to feel that the only out was killing himself. I have always felt that KMTR is a news media that is very sensitive. They get their facts straight before reporting.
Is your life so boring that you think you need to judge other people and sound off about something that is so sensitive. I will pray that you can find other avenues to vent your obvious angered, troubled soul.
Please spare me the psychobabble....And as far as judging you seem to be doing a whole lot more of that than I am. You have it all figured out : I am "Judgmental", "Angered", and have a "Troubled Soul", and you figured all of that out by reading a few words I typed on a blog and have never even met me. Since you have such a concern for my soul and well being perhaps you would like to come over for dinner sometime, meet my wife and kids and then you perhaps you can make a more informed judgement. if you are interested you can PM me, OK.
And as far as the young man who killed himself, I made my statement and I stand by it: It is the ulitmate act of selfishness - If he had not so self-absorbed and was more concerned about helping others think of how many people he could have helped ? And think about that person who may be considering suicide who just may read this blog and understand that this is the truth of the matter, who knows it just may change his or her mind. Feeling sorry for a person does nothing for them. He is no longer on this earth, I do have compassion for his family, but I cannot help them as I do not know them...
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04-09-2009, 9:36 AM |
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
Buzz Blogger:No, that is not Matt Templeman.
We had the story up on the website at 10:00AM on Monday April 6th, which is about 32 hours before you posted on the forums. We kept, and still have the story on our front page. The reason you may have thought that the Register Guard and KMTR had buried the story is that you were looking for it so long after it was reported.
We haven't reported more information on the story because of the privacy of the family. We normally do not report on suicides, and the only reason this one was reported on was because of the public nature of the event.
We take our news integrity very seriously, and I'm sure the Register Guard does as well. Your theory on ad money suppressing the news is 100% inaccurate.
Right - This coming from a "News" agency that considers "Free Tattoo Day" at High Priestess Tattoos worthy of a 3 minute piece (Complete with an interview)....I perhaps am coming from a diffent platform than you - That being Valley River Center has a high amount of criminal activity and the news is not reporting it and the mall management refused to take any proactive steps to deter crime (That is indisputable). You say add revenues do not factor into news reporting ? DO you really expect us to believe that ? Why don't you run piece on 4J Superintendant salaries which are 6 times the average for this area ?
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04-09-2009, 2:40 PM |
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POSTALONE
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
I have heard this point of view before and still cannot understand how someone can be selfish. I have no doubt that a small percentage thought that whoever would be sorry that there gone. But im guessing that the majority just ran out of any hope and didnt have that friend or support group or just didnt know how to ask. Add to the mix all the problems of alcohol and drugs and just trying to survive. Im glad you have a family and guessing this hasnt hasnt touched you personally. Everyone at one time or another has had these thoughts.How people deal with it or with people they are concerned about make the difference.
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04-09-2009, 3:52 PM |
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Re: Valley River Center: A place for suicidal maniacs (and thieves and hoodlums)
clueless: It is a sad state of affairs, but hey, don't worry dear Consumer, come out and spend you hard earned dollars on useless junk made in Communist China, and if you get really lucky you just might get to witness a theft, violent crime or who knows what !!!
Now I remember why I don't come here anymore. All you fringe whackos have usurped these forums with your crazy rhetoric.
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