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Harlow Road RoundAbout NightMare

Last post 08-30-2007, 10:30 PM by badgerrr. 10 replies.
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  •  01-13-2007, 10:19 AM 1219583

    Harlow Road RoundAbout NightMare

    Look at that thing!

    Who thought this makes sense?  Look at the wrecks on it in the short time of it's operation!

    This is SOOOooooo in keeping with the absurd state of affairs in Springfield planning these daze.  Something is desperately wrong in the Courthouse.


    An ascendant man, living in a degenerate age, MUST, by definition, live in contradistinction to his times.
  •  01-24-2007, 8:51 AM 1249501 in reply to 1219583

    Re: Harlow Road RoundAbout NightMare

    I cant agree more.  The person who designed this hopefully is in a new line of work.  It shouldn't take a genius to know that a 2 lane roundabout won't work! 
  •  01-24-2007, 11:16 AM 1250158 in reply to 1249501

    Re: Harlow Road RoundAbout NightMare

    bluecup:
    I cant agree more.  The person who designed this hopefully is in a new line of work.  It shouldn't take a genius to know that a 2 lane roundabout won't work! 


    Multiple lane roundabouts can work.  It's just here in Springfield/Eugene aren't used to them.  Check out this picture from a roundabout in Europe.


  •  01-27-2007, 4:52 PM 1260335 in reply to 1250158

    Re: Harlow Road RoundAbout NightMare

    "Multiple lane roundabouts can work."

    Now that certainly is true.  They CAN work.

    But they can work in the same sense that a person can be dropped off out on the ice pack in January 200 miles north of Barrow Alaska in January...be given a few Inuit survival tools and he could come walking safely into Barrow the next week.  Yup...it can happen....but not for you and me.  We would be Polar Bear Popsicles.  But I'm sure that  for any number of Inuit, it would be a walk in the park.  They would have long racial/cultural/family historys with surviving using the old ways.  Yes....given  special training white people could do it too.  But just dropping random members of the population off out there under such curcumstances wouldn't be a good idea.

    Building a round-about like that in the middle of an American town (particularly in proximity to a hospital!) isn't a good idea either.  People will die needlessly in both situations. 

    Seems to me that the Ancient Romans built roundabouts for them donkey drawn ox carts out in Europe before the birth of Christ.  Europeans have long experiance with the roundabout concept long before they are old enough to drive.  It's a long standing thing in the culture; like pack-ice survival is for the Inuit.  Here in Eugene, both things are alien and dangerous for the vast majority of the population here.

    With it's proximity to that hospital, can you imagine being hysterically driven there after having a severed limb.  Your lifes blood squirting all over the car.  Seconds are hours and your life is draining away....then.....the "ROUND-ABOUT!".  Your driver doesn't know how to use it or someone else on the roundab-out messes up (Very understandable).   You are toast.  And stuff like this is gunna happen, time and time again.  This is completely inappropriate.  This Round-about is an ongoing horror show.


    An ascendant man, living in a degenerate age, MUST, by definition, live in contradistinction to his times.
  •  02-23-2007, 6:14 PM 1341360 in reply to 1219583

    Re: Harlow Road RoundAbout NightMare

    badgerrr  You have to look at it from the planning commission's point of view roundabouts are just good population control.
     Fedup
  •  03-14-2007, 8:51 PM 1408710 in reply to 1219583

    Re: Harlow Road RoundAbout NightMare

    An ambulance came up behind us as we were entering the roundabout, and as we were trying to get out of the way the traffic kept coming around!  Did anyone think of this when they put it right next to a hospital?  I agree -- it wasn't a very good idea, and it probably cost more than any of us will ever know.
  •  03-16-2007, 6:49 PM 1416900 in reply to 1341360

    Re: Harlow Road RoundAbout NightMare

    Fedup, I hesitate to guess what the commissioners point of view was while planning this mess! I dread it every time it have to drive it because of those who simply do not pay attention! (Springfield has its share of those types). I guess you are right it can control the traffic in a sense that many people now look for a alternate route. I can just imagine the people who live in plain view of this, the probably sit on the porch at rush hour just waiting to see what happens next. It is a bad joke on us!

  •  04-09-2007, 4:14 PM 1497243 in reply to 1219583

    Re: Harlow Road RoundAbout NightMare

    There are serveral reasons that I feel this round about makes sense. 

    1. It keeps traffic moving.  Instead of having to wait at a light for it to change, you have the opportunity to yield to the traffic coming from your left and go when it is clear
    2. More traffic accidents happen at stop lights then at round abouts.  Yes, I realize that there were a few that happen at this round about when it first opened but as time goes by, less and less will occur. 
    3. As the new hospital opens and business to this area increases, the round about will become more more useful in getting traffic where they need to go quicker and more effiently.  I would rather not wait at the light that they would have to put in for ever than 'tolerate' the quick and easy in and out of a round about

    Come people....I know you are from Springfield where change has always been tough for residents to take but stop complaining about something that makes your life easier.  And for those who don't know the rules of a round about, here they are.  There is only two things to know:

    When approaching it, yield to cars in it.

    When in it, don't stop and yield to cars not in it.

     

  •  07-17-2007, 7:21 PM 1807552 in reply to 1497243

    Re: Harlow Road RoundAbout NightMare

    Was amused to see on KMTR news today an engineer declare the round-about (and I quote) "a success".!!!!!!!

    If this is sucess; I have to wonder what it would take to qualify for failure?  Perhaps a firestorm?  Nuclear holocaust?


    An ascendant man, living in a degenerate age, MUST, by definition, live in contradistinction to his times.
  •  07-18-2007, 12:07 AM 1808381 in reply to 1807552

    Re: Harlow Road RoundAbout NightMare

     The Roundabout makes sense alright, and lots of money for the local body shops. At any given time you can find the waste from more than one accident at it, not to mention the large amount of skid marks and tire tracks on all the surrounding curbs, not just at this one but any I have seen. If the driving public had been using these things for years they would be second nature, but having one dropped in our laps at a major intersection, was not the brightest thing in the world to do.
  •  08-30-2007, 10:30 PM 1934047 in reply to 1808381

    Re: Harlow Road RoundAbout NightMare

    Thank Heaven for Laura Street!  Tis a glorious drive-around from my neck of the woods to Gateway.
    An ascendant man, living in a degenerate age, MUST, by definition, live in contradistinction to his times.
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