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Please tell me about your God.

Last post 04-20-2007, 10:21 PM by Spanky. 6 replies.
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  •  11-27-2006, 12:22 PM 1092205

    Please tell me about your God.

    Your God. Why do you believe? What powers does your God have? Did your God create the earth and all life upon it? How does this creation relate to the endless universe? Did your God create every single atom and unit of energy in the endless universe? Why? How, when it is now universally accepted that matter and energy can never not exist because it can never be destroyed? It is in either one form or the other. And if this is the case, there could never have been a beginning. How does your God work this out? Does your God cause the collision of galaxies and all the destruction of life their-in? Why? What about the multiple extinction events that have killed almost all life on earth at the time of the event? Why would your God do this? What exactly is your God? What is it made of? If it exists, it has to be something. Please don't be simplistic. If I prayed to your God to stop the war in the Middle East, would he stop it? Do you believe in God just because another human wrote something in a book and then claimed he had direct contact with something he called a God and that the writers words are actually God's words? Does your God do anything on earth today or is he dead, or maybe on vacation? I read somewhere that God says that every man should have as many wives as possible, should I believe in THAT particular God?

    If there is one God, why can't there be another God? Or maybe every solar system has it's own God. Why not? There could be millions of Gods with a SuperGod overseer coordinating events.

    I am wondering if God is good, if so why he is allowing such chaos and horror on earth such as what we are experiencing today?

    Thank you very much for your thoughts.

  •  12-01-2006, 6:43 PM 1106329 in reply to 1092205

    Re: Please tell me about your God.

    I will tell you. My god is pure and complete Love. He does not create the chaos and problems in this world, people do! He will not interfear with your free will. If he does then what are we here to learn? It is "Dark" souls such as yours that try to create chaos and stir up problems and doubt such as with your silly questions above. Please go spread your doom and gloom somewhere else!

  •  12-02-2006, 12:45 PM 1107479 in reply to 1106329

    Re: Please tell me about your God.

    Is creating life just a game for your God? Make an animal, give it free will and sit back and watch the chaos. What's the point? Murder, torture, disease, starvation, these then are also the creation of God if he created an environment that allows this to happen. What an ego God has. "If you survive all the crap and hell I have created, and still believe in me and love me, only then will I reward you." Why the game?

    Silly questions? I venture to say that they are only silly to believers who don't have a clue as to how to deal with them. Me...my thoughts are doom and gloom, while religion caused wars rage in the Middle East, while millions have recently been killed by Muslim related war in Africa??? I am mearly acknowledging reality which is necessary before anything can be done about doom and gloom.

    Please, can anyone be more specific as to what your God is and if it has any power to stop this hell on earth.

  •  12-06-2006, 9:37 PM 1119410 in reply to 1107479

    Re: Please tell me about your God.

    Oy Citizen!  Looking at all your Religion based threads and your slant on the subject, sure seems to me that you got a bad case of the DEATH OF GOD ERA malaise.

      I've had your threads in the back of my mind for a few daze - trying to think of a viable way to communicate on the subject with someone from your perspective.  You are strongly caught up in the vulgar interpretation of Spiritual Mythology.  But dealing with that would take far more writting than I am prepared to do.  (lots of folks write entire books on just a few of the subjects you bounce around on).

    I think the best I can do would be to encourage you to read more Joseph Campbell.  There's a book I'm just finishing called THE POWER OF MYTH that's in all the book stores right now.  It would be a good perspective for you to start looking at.  It's pretty accessable stuff, the way Campbell presented it.

    If I may take some liberties.  Reading lots of your stuff might be compared to a this fictional discussion about Football.  One fellow wonders who is going to win the big game....Arizona Cardinals against the Minnesota Vikings?  The other fellow pipes up...."Oh Pleeaassse!  The Vikings have to win!  Great big Bad Vikings with swords and spears against a stupid bird?!  What's the bird gunna do?!  Maybe Poop on em......He might be able to fly around a lot.  But how is he gunna throw a football?  And them Vikings will flatten him if they ever get ahold of him!!!....the only thing that cardinal could Posssibly do would be to......."  In short, you are talking about a lot of symbols & ciphers without looking into them or thru them or acknowledging them as symbols.  This guy is talking about birds and Vikings....not Football, pretty much the same sort of thing.

     


    An ascendant man, living in a degenerate age, MUST, by definition, live in contradistinction to his times.
  •  12-13-2006, 10:12 AM 1136999 in reply to 1119410

    Re: Please tell me about your God.

    Badgerr-
         WHAT in the world did you just say.  Bring it down to mortal level.  I know you said something, I just know it!  I saw your cyber lips moving, I just couldn't make out what you were saying.  :)

    Busman

  •  12-17-2006, 4:24 PM 1149709 in reply to 1136999

    Re: Please tell me about your God.

    Howdy Friendly!

    The Religions and their writs/mythology must be looked opon as the proverbial onion.  There are layers opon layers of meaning.  The surface stories (understood only as the tale itself) is the "Vulgar interpretation". 

    In Ancient times, all over the world, knowlage/wisdom was communicated with such stories and parables.  All the old Religions (and all the big ones are very old) communicate on this level.  What's more, the people and times these original tales came from are long gone.  I'm convinced that most all these mythologies speak of many things we will never decipher.  But an intelligent man ,contemporary with the tale, would pick up nearly it's entire meaning.  But many of it's themes are eternal....and if we pay attention, we can see much of what is being said.

    That "Death of God" thing was something that hit Civilization with the real coming of Science.  It had inspired an empowering of the "Vulgar interpretations" after the Enlightenment.  There was an unspoken affront to the established Religions by the sciences.  But good people were understood to be good Christians (or whichever), so there was a need to express an allegiance to the Religion, somehow.  In that field, the coarsest Spiritual interpretations prevailed.

      (Fast forward to the early/mid 19th Century. )  Science is running full speed, Spiritual understanding has sunk to it's lowest ebb.  The unspoken affront of Science is now very close to the surface.  People want to be good people, - they profess a belief in God - but in their hearts the doubt can no longer be overlooked.  This was the field in which Western Civilization coined the term "Death of God" thru the philosophers Mainlander and Nietzsche.  We are still in this age.

    Hope I shed some light on that earlier entry, Friendly.  Like I said; this is a topic where it is easy to write books, if one isn't careful. 


    An ascendant man, living in a degenerate age, MUST, by definition, live in contradistinction to his times.
  •  04-20-2007, 10:21 PM 1541131 in reply to 1107479

    Where to find answers to age-old questions about God

    CitizensForSanity:

    Is creating life just a game for your God? Make an animal, give it free will and sit back and watch the chaos. What's the point? Murder, torture, disease, starvation, these then are also the creation of God if he created an environment that allows this to happen. What an ego God has. "If you survive all the crap and hell I have created, and still believe in me and love me, only then will I reward you." Why the game?

    Silly questions? I venture to say that they are only silly to believers who don't have a clue as to how to deal with them. Me...my thoughts are doom and gloom, while religion caused wars rage in the Middle East, while millions have recently been killed by Muslim related war in Africa??? I am mearly acknowledging reality which is necessary before anything can be done about doom and gloom.

    Please, can anyone be more specific as to what your God is and if it has any power to stop this hell on earth.



    I recommend reading "Letters From a Skeptic" by Gregory Boyd. He graciously and capably handles more challenging, penetrating versions of these questions as they were posed to him by his father. It's an inexpensive book and a wonderful, easy read.
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