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Frontline and "THE TANK MAN"

Last post 10-11-2008, 10:01 PM by Spanky. 4 replies.
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  •  06-04-2008, 3:20 AM 3076696

    Beer [B] Frontline and "THE TANK MAN"

    Did anyone watch "Frontline" tonight?

    "THE TANK MAN" of Tiananmen Square.  In 1989, in China, it was feared that all such reports coming out of China by any foreign journalist would be "confiscated" or "filtered"...and they were correct.  Here in the USA, it is simply confiscated, filtered, fabricated, implied, coherced, pushed, and even threated...until it comes true.

    I have read and watch as the circus came to town.  I watched and listened and read all the previews, and reviews and all the deluge, the critics and their kissin-cousin idiots, in their, easily replaceable stage armchairs, waterboarded us into selecting who looked and sounded-bited the best for their own gratuitous needs--not for ours. [US broadcast TV Fox Broadcasting Company Fox Television Stations · MyNetworkTV; KVAL News is simulcast on local MyNetworkTV affiliate KEVU at 11 (Fox and KVAL) and Rupert Murdock; "Rupert Murdock heaps praise on Barack Obama", Guardian.co.uk, by Jemima Kiss {honest}; Center for American Progress--"Who Is Rupert Murdoch?"; and always, Wikipedia; and oh so much more...]

    Think of what all these students in China went and did back in 1989...what they were willing--and gave--to have democracy (and ultimately what ended up happening to them...they really didn't have a say in anything and still don't and WE think we do? Biggest joke in the world. HA, HA!).  This one man, who had had enough of a bunch of political thugs (Democratic Party Leaders, the DNC--who by the way had already had made up their minds, but had to "save face" for public and political reasons of their own accord...just the shortness of the deliberations reeks of it--and individual "senior" party heads), stood in front of a line of TANKS.  Putting his life on the line, because he'd had enough of being pushed around, told what he was going to do, what to think, how he was going to dress, WHO he was going to VOTE for...when there were any voting being done...

    COME ON PEOPLE!!!!  Huh?

    When did the USA become drones???  Confused

    Oh yea.  When children where allowed to live their lives in video games and not in the real world...when someone else started to tell them what their rights were, and the parents became nothing but a bank account for the social services...the one's who will make us do whatever they want...oooOOOooo....

    But really...when did you stop using your mind that sits on you head and start using the one...never mind...I think it was in the '60s'...and all those wild mushrooms...

    The one we had who was OUR own "TANK MAN", the one who was there during our own time of trials and tribulations that set our nation on its head, you all let the commies run over our "TANK MAN" [must have been the a mushroom rebound...) and now...another 4 years...compromise, secrecies, and eventually, even the news people who made the nomination will find themselves...out in the cold...like the rest of us.

    May we may have help from somewhere. Iran?

    We'll need it.

    By the way...Who is the one who was willing to stand up and "take a stand" against rules that are no longer true to the "voice of the people"?  And who was the one who "went along to get along"? and yet the campaign slogan is:  C.H.A.N.G.E.?  Change government...not while running. Gotta get that nomination first and THEN...

    Ya...right... 

    ...sigh...

    Panspartner Indifferent

  •  06-05-2008, 1:12 PM 3082937 in reply to 3076696

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    "DNC bans lobbyist money; dean remains as chair" (YAHOO! News and the  Associated Press) 6/6/2008

    ...yaaaaa...and he kept "mum" long enough to get the "nomination"...

    What'd I tell ya...

    Watch out "Senior Statesmen"!!!!Wink

    "Promises, promises...better have 'em in written in blood on paper...his, preferablely, so that the DNA will match.  (CSI--is there really a CSI as good as the ones on TV?)

    PanspartnerBeer

     

  •  08-04-2008, 3:52 AM 3266819 in reply to 3082937

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    Panspartner:

    .... (CSI--is there really a CSI as good as the ones on TV?)


    PanspartnerBeer


     


    No.

    Many states have first-class forensic scientists, though, and much of the show "CSI" is based upon reality.

    Oregon also used to have a first class team of "criminalists" (CSIs) who investigated crime scenes, particularly arson and murder scenes, but that capability was seriously injured by years of slashing Oregon State Police budgets. Several crime labs were closed entirely (like Coos Bay lab), others were severely cut back (like Springfield), and all were harmed by the decision to make criminalists "non-sworn". (That means most of the remaining Oregon criminalists are not even cops, so they don't carry guns anymore.)

    Just think, the same legislature that brought you a 65% reduction in state police patrol staffing in Lane County between 1981 and 2007 also killed the state's forensic-investigation capacity. (In 1981 there were 76 state police troopers stationed in Lane County, making Lane County, and Oregon, almost average in trooper staffing per population. By the fall of 2007 there were only 26 troopers left there. The county population had increased by over 60,000 and the serious crime had increased dramatically too, but the leftislature had slashed the public safety budget to fund the Oregon Health Plan and protect education.) That was the beginning of the end for the state's crime lab. Fortunately, there are fewer than twenty murders in Lane County in an average year, so most citizens there don't really care. After all, why have a first-rate crime-lab team if every other part of the law enforcement team is down to only 20% to 50% of average? This way everything in Lane County can stink equally :-)

    The next phase of the Lane County evolution is the installation of a state prison and a criminal-looney-bin in Junction City. Those facilities will both be built by the end of 2011, thereby attracting all the fine people who have a spouse, friend or relative in the joint.

    Of Course, Lane County's enforcement capacity has been eliminated. It's jail capacity is lower than counties with as little as 9% to 28% of its population, Like Tillamook and Douglas, and it's due to be cut back even further within the next two years. This year alone budget cuts cost you over 90 positions in the Lane County Sheriff's office and the DA's office.

    The silver lining is this: there is nowhere you can move in Oregon, Washington, Idaho or Nevada where it wont be better, and 95% of the state of California is better (lower crime risk) too!
  •  10-11-2008, 12:34 AM 3533469 in reply to 3266819

    Re: Frontline and "THE TANK MAN"

    Sooooo....... Go back to Cali !!!!!
  •  10-11-2008, 10:01 PM 3534424 in reply to 3533469

    Re: Frontline and "THE TANK MAN"

    MarkL:
    Sooooo....... Go back to Cali !!!!!

    What a tool...

    I've never lived in "Cali".

    I'm an Oregonian. That's why I care so much about it's destruction -- particularly the destruction of the public safety system. When I was a kid, it was Los Angeles, New York, Chicago and Detroit that were thought of as the high-crime areas. In Eugene we could leave our homes unlocked and leave the keys in the car. That was still true well into the 1970s when the Lane COunty sheriff had nearly three times the staff to manage a small fraction of today's crime. Not anymore. Now your car theft rate is worse than 97% of all jurisdictions between 100,000 and 1,000,000 citizens. That's terrible and it's just one statistical example among many.

    Lane County citizens should take action to bring the public safety system back to the staffing of the 1970s, as even 1970s staffing would be a HUGE improvement over the present state of decay you have caused by failing to properly fund county government and voting to fund loads of irrelevant crap instead.

    There are lots of wonderful people left in Eugene, Mark. Some of them are my relatives and friends. I think it's worth getting them the information they need to make better decisions. For whatever reason, there are dozens of misinformation artists in Eugene, now. Perhaps they share your strange views. All I want to do is wake the thinking people up and encourage them to do their own research. They can go right to the sources, demand the public records and verify the staffing reductions and crime statistics.

    If Lane County citizens were nothing but unrepentant, ignorant socialist transplants like yourself I wouldn't care at all, but many of the folks there would do what needs to be done if they only understood what was going on. I'm just trying to help :)
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