BUSYMOM, MY DOG THE YORKIE AND CAT ARE BEST FRIENDS, I DONT LET THE YORKIE OUT FOR FEAR OF ANOTHER ANIMAL HURTING HER, AS SHE BEING AN ANIMAL KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT HAWKS, FYI THE CAT HATES TUNA.NOW I'M GOING TO TELL YOU FOLKS ABOUT MYSELF, HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH TOPIC, AS MANY OF THE COMMENT'S DONT.AS I SAID BEFORE I RAISED 5 VERY SUCCESFUL CHILDREN, AND RAISING A 13 YEAR OLD, WHO HAS MORE SENSE THAN SOME OF YOU ADULTS OUT THERE,I WORK 8-10 HOURS A DAY, CARRY FOOD, CLOTHING, MONEY IN MY CAR TO HELP OTHERS I SEE IN NEED, I TAKE CARE OF MY DISABLED HUSBAND, KEEP A SPOTLESS HOME, TAKE CARE OF ILL PEOPLE, TAKE CARE OF DYING PEOPLE, COOK FOR NIEHBORS WHO HAVE JUST HAD SURGERY, THAT ON SOME DAYS LEAVE ME ABOUT 4 HRS OF SLEEPING TIME, SOME DAYS NONE, AND STILL NORMALLY FIND MORE TIME TO BE KIND, TELL ME HOW BUSY YOU ARE, BEING A MOM AS YOU SAY, REALLY HOPE YOUR NOT RAISING THEM TO BE AS RUDE AND PETTY AS YOU. HAVING RECENLY LOST MY MOM I WAS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO TALK WITH PEOPLE AND JOIN IN CONVERSATION,MISTAKE AFTER MY CHILDREN READING SOME OF YOUR COMEBACKS ON THE FORUMS, THEY LET ME KNOW THERES SOME REALLY RUDE, NASTY MISERABLE PEOPLE OUT THERE, AND I DONT BELONG ON HERE. HOWEVER THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE KIND, I SO VERY MUCH APPLAUD THEM AND THANK THEM. MAGICBUS,SILLYME THANK YOU. POSTALONE OR POSTAL ONE CHECK FOR SPELLING, AS I REALLY DONT GIVE A D--N. ITS NO WONDER THERES SO MUCH WICKEDNESS IN THE WORLD, BY THE WAY BUSYMOM, I FORGOT THE SCHOOL VOLUNTEER, RAISING MONEY FOR DYING CHILDREN, I COULD CONTINUE BUT THIS UNEDUCATED MOM IS TIRED OF TYPING, TIME FOR ME TO GO CLEAN ANOTHER TOILET,  AS THATS WHAT I DO TO GIVE MY CHILD A BETTER LIFE, AFTER MY REGULAR JOBS, WHINE ABOUT HOW BUSY YOU ARE

I have found that in my travels that the people who boast usually dont do and that if correcting a word is wicked then im sorry. Finally it is the freedom to speak how we feel that makes our country great and was paid for more than enough times through the years. I would guess that most pet owners are responsible and its the few who dont take care of there animals or anything else that cause the problems for the rest.

postalone, not boasting, nothing to boast about, as far as correcting my spelling, it made me feel pretty stupid, that was not what i considered wicked. Its just the hateful attitudes of some of the people.yeah i believe responsible people keep their animals from bothering others.

My Mom is not a boasting kind of person. She's tired of people biting her back constantly.

postalone, thinking further about your last comment, what is there to boast about in cleaning toilets, or the bottoms of dying people, what i will boast about is my 6 awesome children and thats my right,i was only trying to explain myself and how i feel about kindness. I would much rather be your friend than an irritant to you or anyone else, i wasnt going to sit back and take busymoms attack or anyone else for that matter anymore. She knows nada about my cat, dog, or me. hopefully i can help you understand how i felt

Woody, the best way to deal with people being stupid, or rude, on these message boards is to just ignore them, as hard as that may be. Those sort of actions are, unfortuneately, to be expected when people are posting under an assumed name. They have no 'accountability' keeping them from being rude, petty or just saying things that, in person, they would never say.

Your right redcity8, i'm way to sensitive probably to be on here, but people like you keep me on, confirming there are good people like you, sillyme, magicbus, I thank all of you for your support. My Husband and Daughter also told me it's easy for people to hide behind a computer where they cant be seen face to face and be ugly, which i try not to be. thank you all so much, hopefully i can say something to interest some of them and possibly make a friend or at least make them think about trying to be a little kinder it's easy and goes alot furtherThanks so much for the encouragement

Lane County has a cat overpopulation problem, and Springfield is the worst, because there are no agencies dealing with cats/Springfield.  This is a problem that can be solved, but EVERYONE has to work together.  Get your cats altered.  Property and rental managers/owners must require pets that are allowed be altered.   The wild/feral cats must be altered.  Then when a stray shows up, deal with ONE animal, instead of waiting until you have dozens of sickly pathetic animals -- whose only crime was being born -- no one wanted them.

Go to the new website Greenhill Human Society has put together (www.feralfix.org) for information on fixing feral cats.

Dumping animals is NOT the solution -- it only passes the problem on to someone else. 

Surely there are enough caring and devoted people in Springfield who can create a Springfield Humane Society and make a difference.

The Humane Society of Cottage Grove has made a difference in the South end of the County, and have done so without a physical shelter.  I would think Springfield is large enough to have its' own facility.  The need is certainly there.

All other agencies in the area are impacted by Springfields' lack of responsibility.  Everyone gets phone calls from concerned Springfield residents -- what do we do -- the sick cat, the stray, the pg cat, the abandoned litter of kittens -- the stories go on and on.

We have all dealt with the dumps, trying to avoid the terrified animals on the road, finding the starving animals, the diseased.  Because someone would/could not be responsible and took the cowardly way out.  But agencies MUST start being more open to the need.

I hope every Springfield resident who cares will start going to every city council meeting and contacting every city official and testifying to the need, until something is done.

Because this impacts everyone -- the disease potential - dead and dying animals, damage to possessions, the trauma of hitting animal on the road, etc.

There is a problem, and it can be fixed, but everyone has to work together.  Whether you love cats or hate cats -- IT IS A PROBLEM!  And remember, it is not the cats' fault.  It is human beings' fault

bekindtocats

 

 

 

Wow, it is about time someone did something. I have been trying for two years now....thank you...and yes, there is an animal control officer in Springfield, the problem is and you can call her and ask her, but she does NOTHING with cat's. L.C.A.S. can do NOTHING for Springfield cat's because Springfield does not have a contract with them to do so. Greenhill Humane Society and Oregon Humane Society have a three month waiting list to get cat's in. The REAL problem with all the cat's running around is there are not enough of them getting spayed and neutered. 7 years ago the director at L.C.A.S. tried to get an ordinance passed, and it was always shot down by someone. Other counties and states have ordinances regarding feral and stray cat's, why can't we? And why can we not enforce the existing laws on animal abandonment? So many are left to fend for themselves when their owner's leave them behind. No wonder the bird population is dwindling. There are a TON of starving cat's out in the community. Animal's need food and shelter, just like we do. If we could only all work together and find a solution for everyone. And the "dumping" of cat's and kitten's and puppies, is just so hard to understand. If the female cat's were spayed, there would not be more sick kittens being born. In the U.S. alone, there are 70,000 puppies and kitten's born EVERY day. Gee, no wonder our animal shelter's are so full. And we of course want to help all the homeless folk's out there, but what about all the homeless animal's as well. There is a solution. Spay and neuter all of your pet's. Thank you.

I am not understanding why this ordinance is about just domestic cat's. It is the feral and stray cat's that can be a nuisance, as well as the owner's of the cat's who dump them on other people's property when they no longer want them. Now that can be a nuisance as well. And these cat's would not be stray if people would stop dumping them and abandoning them and the feral's are feral because no one will give them a chance. These cat's can be tamed, I know. I just spent 6 month's taming one that was dumped at our local park. And if these cat's were altered, there would not be so many ROAMING around. They are only looking for warm places and some FOOD. Also there are alot of cat rescue group's currently helping out with the problem in Springfield and we are from Eugene, Oakridge, Cottage Grove and Creswell areas, so unfortunately we can not sign your petition. But believe me, we would sure like to sign it. We have written letter's to city, and county official's as well as to the county commissioner's. Unfortunately, some people just don't seem to see the real problem. We have had meetings at Springfield city hall with council member's. More Springfield residents really need to attend those meeting's on Monday nights before they will even begin to listen to you all. And above all, we could sure use some serious volunteers to help trap and neuter and re

busymom:

YOUR LIPS ARE MOVING BUT ALL I HEAR IS BLAH BLAH BLAH....YOU DIDNT USE MUCH COMMON SENSE WHEN YOU GOT YOUR YORKIE AND CALLED IT A DOG, ITS JUST A MOUSE ON STEROIDS AND IF YOU WERENT AROUND IT MUCH I'LL BET YOUR CAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT FOR LUNCH NEXT TO A SIDE OF TUNA.  IM SURE SHE DOESNT LIKE THE OUTDOORS MUCH FOR FEAR A HAWK MAY COME BY AND PICK HER UP. BY THE WAY I LOVE BEING AN EDUCATED, BUSYMOM WITH  COMMON SENSE TOO.       

Honestly, do you really consider your comments to be those of an "educated" person?  You may have an education, but you are not using it to compose your posts.  You continually suggest that others are being petty in their desires to have cat owners held accountable, yet you resort to insults in an effort to get your limited point across.  Looking at the posts regarding the "Cat Ordinance Petition," your comments are the ones that seem petty.  People have legitimate concerns regarding free roaming cats, whether they are domestic or feral.  Whether those concerns involve simple irritation, financial issues, concern for local birds and other wildlife or a concern for the cats themselves, they have a right to try and change the laws.  Simple human decency dictates that they should be able to do so without having to endure petty irrelevant insults from those that oppose.  You are a self proclaimed “educated, busy mom with common sense,” yet your comments make one question your maturity level.  Is this how you teach your children to deal with conflict?

Woody,

I am truly sorry that you have had to endure so many inappropriate comments.  Please don’t feel that the whole of society has sunk to such a level of immaturity, though it may seem that way based on a vocal few.  I sincerely hope that you can learn to mentally cast such comments aside and know that the authors are clinging to the only way they know to argue their point which has no apparent rationale.  Please continue your polite example and don’t let others’ limited form of expression affect you.

Calico,

Thank you for your posts.  It is nice to hear from someone that cares about the wellbeing of the cats.  I personally want my cat inside where she is safe from angry neighbors, cars and other cats.  Therefore, I do not understand “cat lovers” that seem unconcerned for the safety of their cats and that of feral cats.  However, this petition is specifically focused on domestic cats because they have owners that should be held accountable, many of which allow their cats to contribute to the feral cat population by not having them spayed or neutered.  The efforts being made by yourself and others to reduce the feral cat population are greatly needed.  Restricting the roaming of domestic cats will also help in those efforts.

POSTALONE:

How about taking up a real cause, for instance, people who are hungry and freezing to death. Lack of jobs in lane county, crime, meth use, the state cutting back the school year. Maybe when some of the bigger problems are solved more people will take seriously the little more trivial ones.

The issues you mentioned are all worthy causes, but a person can put effort into more than one cause at a time.  Besides criticizing this petition, what efforts have you made in other causes, particularly the ones you listed?  Though the lives of cats, birds, rabbits, squirrels and chipmunks might not be of any importance to you, it is a worthy cause to me.  I believe their lives have value and I do not consider their loss to be trivial. 

Do you criticize others that fight to save the lives of horses that are killed to produce dog food or sold for human consumption overseas?  Obviously those people have a certain fondness for horses and I do not believe they should be criticized because there are so many other issues they could focus on.  It is an important issue to them and therefore, in their opinion, a worthy cause.   I hope my analogy can help some understand that saving the lives of "lesser" animals may seem a trivial cause to them, but to others those animals hold a special place in their hearts and lives.  People can have different opinions and values without berating the other’s interests. 

 

outonalimb, Thank you very much, I'm trying to keep that in mind, Thank you